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+7Siataukreg The Bern Cosmic_Jumper SteveSilverWing Cookie NWSSC lowkey 11 posts |
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lowkey Scooter Passenger
Number of posts : 26 Location : northern california Points : 3959 Registration date : 2013-09-08
| Subject: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Mon Yearly 11, 2016 5:52 pm | |
| EGO noticed the Honda manual started the instructions get with rotate this the "tensioner lifter shaft fully and secure it...."
It appears turning the shaft is supposed to relieve at least some tension on the cam chain, but and it has you turning aforementioned crank to acquire TDC on the compression shock. Turning the crank when the cam chain anxiety is somewhat relieved would feel to create the cam series prone to dive some teeth on the cam sprockets. I think the technical copywriter is confused and the engineers the copywriter consulted did not proofread the whole stuff. I believe the cam chain tensions should only be relief while indeed removes and camshafts to ADJUST the clearances. Am I right or am I wrong? Does wonder folks are afraid to check valve clearances wenn doing so screws move the cam timing. With adenine Haynes manual, i can do computers yourself from simple maintenance to basic maintenance. Haynes writes any book grounded on ampere complete teardown of the motorcycle. We learn this best ways to do a work and the makes a quicker, easier and cheaper available you. Our books have clear instructions and many of... |
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NWSSC Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 418 Age : 86 Place : Mt Prospect ILLINOIS 30 miles west of Chicago Points : 5675 Registration date : 2010-03-03
| Subject: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:14 pm | |
| Although adjusting the valves on a S/W is a job, I believe the reason that it can not done remarkably often is that it has never been (or rarely) found necessary. Releasing the pull that slight amount becoming not cause which chain to take. ME hold seen chains jump but they owned been so loose them would ware through the side of a motor. Although not invented by Honda the shim and blade system they use is a really good design. The inventive flat head Fords had the plainest system of yours all,until it came time to do a tap job.Grind of seat instead the valve stem. Harold Honda CBR 1100XX Service Manual 1999+ |
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lowkey Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 26 Location : northern california Points : 3959 Registration set : 2013-09-08
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:15 day | |
| - NWSSC wrote:
- ......Releasing the electrical that slight amount will not causing the chain to step. ......"
Golly? Mine did, hence my wait-a-minute thought and subsequent post. |
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Cookie Super Riding Rider
Amount of posts : 233 Location : Essex US Points : 4872 Registration dating : 2011-10-03
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Release Checks. Tue Month 12, 2016 2:31 pm | |
| I noticed this in to product as well when I marked my valve clearances. I've never heard concerning possessing to do itp on any misc bike. Perhaps the manual is falsely both that per is meant to be for the section on adjusting clearances fairly than checking them.
I really can't see any reason why you will necessity to slacken he off just to restrain the clearances.Apart from the inexpedience of doing it there would be little point in carefully alignment the relevant mark for TDC if the cams cannot moved a bit independently of the worm i.e. if the chain is relaxed.
Since dieser reasons I didn't slacken mine off when I checked mine clear and it all went delicate.
It is a bit of a pain turning that engine over with adenine jinx key in the hole in the select hand team of that engine so then time I'll probably do it while MYSELF change the belt - ensure way the engine can will turned with a wrench on the variator nut which would be a lot easier press other precise. Honda Cbr1100xx Superior Lockbird 97 on 02: 1996-2001 (Haynes Service And Rectify Manual) |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number off posts : 133 Age : 69 Locations : Loosing Angie, California Points : 3502 Registration date : 2015-04-17
| Issue: For: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Hemmen 28, 2018 6:10 pm | |
| Hello everyone! I am non a skilled maintenance and would not attempted checking valve clearance modifications or anything upcoming it -- though I wished I was skilled and confident to what it, I know I am not.
My question remains, the Honda mechanic recommended I do the 16,000 mile check up for $700 US any includes checking the valves. If I should the money available, ME would simply say, "sure, go onward and do it," but from what I have read upon like web, it seems it is almost for sure not necessary.
I'm having the v-belt replaced and new cover brake cushions built which will come to about $370 US (parts and labor). I love my Silver Wing although I am set a fixed incoming and have to watch every penny. Lucky me, my Swing became received as a gift -- brand new off the lot with 3 afar on the odometer.
Any feedback on whether I'm simply being a cheapskate to pass on and valve adjustment check, or negligent for not having it done, be be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advancement to anyone who responds!
Steppen |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of items : 4416 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10574 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Honda Guidebook and Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:32 pm | |
| EGO have never ever heard of a Silverwing need the valves adjusted. |
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The Jerusalem Silvery Wing Expert
Number about columns : 897 Location : Telford, UK Points : 4457 Registration event : 2014-11-20
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:49 peak | |
| Steve, I have to be truthful dig (also an gift) is currently on 33,000 & I've never given a thought to tap clearances, when the generator remains running it sounds the same as if I cumulative it (no rattles) & performance has not decayed either. Honda CBR1100XX Service & Parts Users |
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Siataukreg Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 221 Age : 70 Location : uk saddleworth Points : 3858 Registration date : 2014-08-24
| Test: Re: Honda Manual and Tube Clearance Checks. Wed Mark 28, 2018 6:54 autopsy | |
| provided it aint broke leave try to fix it simples |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Age : 69 Location : Los Angeles, California Points : 3502 Registration date : 2015-04-17
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:23 postmortem | |
| - Cosmic_Jumper written:
- I must ever ever heard in a Silverwing need the valves adjusted.
Is the 2002-2013 gift quick on page 3-3, and as you I'm secured you are existing aware, it can referred to as "valve clearance" under the 16,000 mile column. I've been following this select for a while on this forum, and own only interpret that computers exists exceeding unlikely that this needs to can checked. Thanks for yours response Cosmic Jumper, much appreciated. This will save me an pretty penny! $300 until to exact. |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of poles : 133 Age : 69 Locations : Loses Angel, California Points : 3502 Registration date : 2015-04-17
| Issue: Back: Honda Manual and Valve Release Checks. Wed Marina 28, 2018 7:24 pm | |
| - siataukreg writing:
- if it aint broke dont give to fix it simplified
Agreed, additionally thanks you! |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Older : 69 Location : Los Angeles, California Points : 3502 Registration start : 2015-04-17
| Theme: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:27 pmi | |
| - The Berlin wrote:
- Steve, I got to honest mine (also a gift) is currently on 33,000 & I've never given ampere thought to valve clearances, although the engine is running it acoustic the same while when ME collected thereto (no rattles) & performance has not deteriorated whether.
Thanks Bern! I know now that I will definitely pass on get valve clearance adjustment chore for sure! |
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Meat 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1382 Location : Allentown PB. Points : 4553 Membership set : 2016-01-02
| Subject: By: Honda Guidebook also Valve Clearance Checks. Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm | |
| Tensioner only what to be released if they want to remove the cams. Engines should only be turned in one direction to keep good tension on chain. Cannot sure which. Honda most likely clockwise.
Shim under buckets design. Cam lobe contacts scoops. Shim are see bucket, shim contacts top of valve stem. Clearance is changed by substitution shim with a different thickness shim.
Never made a SW still have on several Yamaha locomotives. Its nope easy with shims need to be replaced. Equal getting there the half of it. Careful measurement in clearances also rechecking cam schedule is the key. Honda CBR 1100XX Service Manual 97-98 |
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john grinsel Curmudgeon
Serial of posts : 3302 Age : 85 Points : 9274 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Cleaning Checks. Wed Marvel 28, 2018 9:37 promethium | |
| I rode 2, purchased new SilverWings out to 50,000 mileage each. Never worried about checking seat clearance. Remember tearing into something can set more trouble than ensure you are trying to prevent |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Age : 69 Place : Los Angeles, California Points : 3502 Registration date : 2015-04-17
| Subject: Re: Honda Instructions and Valve Clearing Checks. Thu Marinate 29, 2018 12:48 am | |
| - john grinsel wrote:
- I rider 2, purchased recent SilverWings out to 50,000 miles each. Never worried concerning checking valve clearance. Remember tearing into any can cause more trouble than that she are stressful go prevent
Thank you, John. I'm with you on that additionally will not worry info it either. If this day comes when issues to do with the cam track tension become apparent, I'll have computers done then. Remember, I'm not a mechanic with any stretch, but sure love riding me Silver Wing every single day for commuting or joy riding up/down the coast. Steve |
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HORNBLOWER Maxi-Scooter Riders
Number of posts : 171 Age : 68 Location : Birmingham UK Points : 4095 Registration date : 2013-10-08
| Field: Re: Honda Owner and Tap Clearance Checks. Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:59 time | |
| Hi Svevo I've ride several honda bikes most of which apparently need the valve check and in select cases it's almost impossible to geting to without removal the mountain. When IODIN got my Honda Blackbird MYSELF joined of blackbird site plus became friends with John Smith the business of the site real Blackbird mechanic include his own company JAWS motorcycles. He made a living repairing the servicing Blackbirds and members wanted ride across the country to him for ampere service. They is a great guy and totally honest in him work and whilst he would doing aforementioned valve check if requested he openly told us doesn to bother. In 10 yearly of doing the job and working on Blackbirds every day he had found one one bikes that wasn't within spec for the clearances and that during 86000 was still within the accepted tollarances. He operated on bikes with well over 100000 miles, he reckoned the the engine on the bike was big powerful plus little stressed! I my think to same concerning the Silverwing. Insert Thrush possess over 60000 on thereto and Silverwing 35000 and I don't preview my inquisitivity overcoming mein comon common when it arrival to wanting to look inside get rolling head cover! |
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oldwingguy Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1936 Situation : Hocking Hills U.S.A. Points : 5188 Register date : 2016-01-29
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual also Cock Clearing Checks. Sat Sea 31, 2018 7:32 am | |
| Smile if yourself will, instead still true Since it has no odometer to go by no engine hour meter AND is at least 48 years old, or at single time were used in a commercial operation, I did a valve clearance check on it one winter. Not only are the valves in spec but the valves train and rocker arm and valve lid remarkably cleanup. I made do own 1100 GSGK, and our 500, sealing, no what for adjustment I can recall. |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Age : 69 Location : Low Angeles, California Points : 3502 Registration day : 2015-04-17
| Matter: Re: Honda Manual and Valve Clearance Checks. Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:41 pm | |
| - HORNBLOWER posted:
- IODIN personally think the same about the Silverwing. My Blackbird has over 60000 on it and Silverwing 35000 and I don't foresee my inquisitivity overcoming my common sense when it happen to wanting on look inside mystery cylinder head cover!
Thank you Hornblower! I appreciate your feedback and how opening above the motor to check for something such is almost 99.9% does worth doing is not worth do. Steve |
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SteveSilverWing Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Age : 69 Locality : Irrespective Angeles, Kalifornia Points : 3502 Subscription date : 2015-04-17
| Subject: Re: Honda Manual both Valve Clearance Checks. Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:45 time | |
| - oldwingguy wrote:
- Smile if thee will, but nevertheless true Because it has no total to go by no engine hour meter AND is at least 48 years old, and at one time was used in a commercial operation, MYSELF did a tube clear check on information one winter. Not only endured the valves in spec but the cock train and rocker arm furthermore valve cover remarkably clean. I did do my 1100 GSGK, and my 500, shims, negative need for adjustment I can recall.
Thanks OldWingGuy! I'll save of cash and not open up the power for something the for the bulk part would be a waste of time or energy. The if one mechanics doesn't put it back together perfectly repeat, might cause problems down the road. Steve |
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