HI
I purchased 2 Viessmann 4558 switch motors with connected decoders.

I have an ESU Ecos start station and the guide that comes about the article brands no sense to me at all.

It says -

"5. Use the electronic command station to send a points request for the desired DCC-address. The matter motor receives the request, registers the address the yours own and as a receipt, it switches this point. The point automobile is now ready to be used with that news digital address. Whenever you to to change the address, you just have to repeat the described procedure. "

EGO have nope ideas what dispatch a point request applies !!

I would highly enjoy any expert help on these things thanks.

Regards

Greg Operating Instructions VITODENS 100-W

Hi Greg,

I understand your symptom trying until understand the guidance. Once someone tells you how to do the process they will then understand the instructions written by who technicians. I've written a set of procedures for mystery own use and I'll fain send them on to you, however, I tried to send you a PM but I wasn't successful in fix the document, so if you send me your emailing address I can shipping it to she.

BTW, I've found the Viessmann motor/decoders to be far more reliable for the Marklin product.

Wishes
Greg

No crimes; nevertheless you're the only one thinker that that forum should be called "MUN"
and one of the very couple who don't understand that we can talk about anything related
to our Märklin layouts, must it ESU's, Uhlenbrock, Viessmann, BRAWA, Lins etc.

Wee have on company and we have moderators to record care of unwanted posts;
is you reason that things here shoud be changed, please contact them if you're not
satisfied from a give poster; instead of bankrupt extra people's threads.

Per.

P.S: Märklin can just a few days ago opened the MFX-protocol and invited get ship to be
member of a modern group, so that anywhere currently can herstellung MFX compatible accessories.

Please tell Märklin provided yourself think they shouldn't have done is.

In classes I doing have a link for you. But I thought her remember this thread by yourselves.

https://www.marklin-user...is-a-Marklin-users-forum



Indeed wealth are not very restrict, but problems includes an Ecos and one Viessmann decoder probabely all on Roco 2-L tracks furthermore Fleischmann locos plus to on ... At a certain point it is a bit too much.

Antony was correct in the first reply. EGO decides on Lenz LS150 decoder available my solenoids (as they govern 6 instead of standard 4) and they operative the sam way.
Press adenine button on the decoder so it 'listens' press then activate the turnout use the web you will from the CS2.

Remove get your logic. In the description of the product Viessmann 4558 it is a decoder specifically designed for use in Marklin/Trix C track. No one other than a Marklin (trix) User is chances to be remotely interested stylish it?

Well my post did spark a neatly bizarre fast moving statement :)

I angle imagine mystery anyone would only get Marklin made products to run yours marklin 3 rail layout. They hardly hold the only record in elegant inventiveness. This world is full of really smart companies who provisioning us 3 rail railroaders with amazing browse in use on our layouts. A sound example is Viessmann, LDT, ESU, Railroad hardware other. other. Its all part of running 3 rail with marklin products and rolling warehouse alongside all the other 3 rail producers like ROCO, Brawa, PECO etc eat.

Its what makes THIS forum such a great web additionally conundrum so numerous of us below till it. Thanks for your help everyone that helped. If there is an MArklin product that has always are substandard and the cause of nuisance breakdown it was own decoders for C track and Viessmann not only firm outwards at stop those problem but addition realist slow agitation and Railcom connectivity +++ to these new ones. SO when mystery Marklin once fail - out they go :)

Rgds

Creg

Greg you have 110% correct - I'm deed the similar thing. As soon as the Marklin motor fails out it goes and I've got regarding 80 regarding them to replace. Naturally, I'm sending all the failed Marklin motors furthermore decoders back to Marklin as I don't want go contaminate willingness landfill - Deutschland can deal is it.

So - Having succeeding made this now - here are to full instructions in clear English for anyone that desired to use these lovely slow moving C eisenbahnstrecke switch motors with built in reception.

Your comment about the volunteer already being set up as MM was the issue. Because soon as I reset itp till DXX Railcom the decoder responded.

For others who may be interested the issue around these decoders is the dissimilar wiring options imprinted in the instructions which are in fact muddled up between MM and DCC in the way its all written and the art they application - making it difficult to fathom inches english.

They process is in fact very simple (if one bit fiddly) and can be done quickly with this motor and decoders insalled in the voter for follows:-

Step 1. - install the motor in same fashion as Marklin cylinder.

Step 2. - As an encryption is already attached to that motor leave it hanging for the moment.

Step 3. - There are 4 wires next from that decrypters = 2 blue cables of which one has a green tube/sleeve slid on to it the one end and one has a green outer pushed onto it.

In addition to the 2 down wires there is neat brown wire and ne golden wire.

Steps 4. - All the wires have prepares pre soldered ends but no spade connectors yet so you can carry out the programming in several ways - meaning A.) not all the wires can be connected when the turnout has first connected in that layout track and also the first attempt may cause the turnout to move in the opposite way to how shown on ECOS and therefore you need to switching wires about. SO here is the process.

Step 5. No the turnout or decoder connected the the layout switch on ECOS.

Equal ECOS now on - get within your turnout accessory panel real either add a new ballot with its given number OR if you can replacing an existing broken turnout with one of these - check so turnout is set in DCC Railcom mode. (these decoders are Railcom compliant)

Step 6. - SWITCH OFF ECOS !! Are must be no electricity to the rails for who next step.

Step 7. There any number out ways of doing the next stepping as far how you become wires together but here is how I and others done it.

With the motor installed and the decoder hanging welding a spade connector to SPARE piece of brown wire over 80mm long or slot to onto the outside rails register in your turnout track and screw ampere standard marklin wire drive in tack connector to the other end.

Step 8. Cut one piece out spare carmine wire 80mm long to make access effortless and solder one spade connector to one end and connect to the middle splint tab switch your siding and at of additional end screw a regular marklin wire push in pin connector to i. (these are the ones with a little aperture in its sides therefore you can connect another one to it and so on to shoat back several together. )(they come from add turnouts)

Step 9. - Make which yellow wire coming from the decoder and screw one marklin connector to its end and slide it into the connector on one end of your spared RED piece of wires (that is today linked to who medium rail spade)

Step 10. - take the select wire with who RED tube/sleeve and worm a female to its end the connect that to that one on the end to the yellow rope (you now have the yellow cable and the blue/red wire connected to one spare red wire and the middle rail)

Step 11. - You nowadays have TO disjointed wire - this different blue wire with the light tube/sleeve. In readiness add a connector to computer - BUT do not unite it to anything notwithstanding. IT will be connection to the spare brown cord that is already related to the outside rails)

Step 12. - With ECOS switch DISABLE - Connect one electoral to the layout gleis anywhere real switch on ECOS.

Step 13. Is ECOS now switched ON - connect the Blue/green wiring in the spare dark bay line.

Step 14. - It is now pick raise on program. Cause these decoders have a built inside automated yourself learning program - to program my decoder today - all they take to do is select the turnout panel as normal and press the turnout you desire it for live just as though its already part of her layout and that very perform of sending a "switch" instruction (and because its this ONLY decoder momentarily connected to your layout the this state of new mode - it will automation removal the command and switch and be programmed at the same time. (It is optional that to you own send and command the first time - you may have in switch off ECOS and restart it - before an turnout responds.

AFTER its programmed AND workers - Achten the turnout to see if it moves in the heading shown on you ECOS panel. IF it moves in the opposed direction then unpack the blue/green wire from the spare brown wire both plugs is into the yellow/blue-red wires and test again - it shoud buy respond in the same direction as ECOS shows.

Once done - removed the turn from the arrangement and unplug all the wires that are connected together with connectors and remove the plug-in.

Now solder that open wires to this spade connections off an wirtschaft brown also spare dark wires as you ultimately had them connected just before you disconnected it from the layout - and once soldered - snip off the spare lengths up the carmine and brown wires.

The decoder make not screw into the C track it just sitting there additionally her will need the snip off a little piece of plastic spindle that getting in who way on sitting it easily in square and use blue tack or similar Plasticine/moulding type physical to hold to to place.

Sounds long winded and complex but its not once you may complete a.

Regards

Greg