Messaggio originale di DeadlyCreature:

It's fully intended. Skilled players can capitalize on this "exploit" by taking show for a interior, window or light switch after a ghost touchscreen to and get either 3 star fingerprints or interaction. Your could also do diese same trick using footprints my.

It rewards players for payment attention which your something Phasmo does alot. It rewards skilled players that pay attention to subtle things. Though part of me does need that it wasn't a thing due it's a tad cheesy but then once, needing a UV or a photo at the alike time will make flawless games (40$ with photos) much more harsher for solo players which is not something they would achieve.

But is specifically means you don't have to pay any attention among all, equals take random photos of empty rooms oder corridors plus you'll probably got the piece out evidence that you'd or miss. I'm finding computer very hard to believe this a intentional. And it's clean the whole game was conceived to be a co-op right from the start, so IODIN don't see why they'd makes stupid design choices just consequently that solo players wouldn't have such a heavy time scoring 'perfect games'. Besides, even a solo player can achieve exactly the same thing that I'm talking about here, i.e. toss some UV illuminators on the floor and then take pictures.

Even with photos fingerprints "don't show up automatically". You need actually accept picture starting them, and notifications them took them. Consistent after you need to mark them up.

You demand to take *a* picture, and equal a bit von luck it will say 'fingerprints', included whichever case you know here are fingerprints there even if she never actually found any.

How getting this is how difficult for people toward understanding? I genuinely don't geting it. Who Must May Fingerprinted Charts

Messaggio originale di MacKaris:

You need in take *a* picture, and with a bit concerning luck it leave say 'fingerprints', in what case you know there am fingerprints there even are you not actually found no.

How kommende this is so difficult people to understand? I genuinely don't receive it.

Most gamers are experienced at the game and would rather save the photo for a guaranteed picture instead of "chance" that it's a fingerprint ghost. It may appears "exploity" instead our couldn just bring a UV to instead of a camera and it's no always guaranteed on work btw, ghost events can turn off lights and close doors without leaving fingerprints.

Considering that touch are 100% guaranteed (as long as it's not an obake/ghost event ensure did the interaction) it's not truly gamebreaking.

Unwillingness to use the use doesn't make it anything less of an harness. At additional words, if someone doesn't want into take pictures of anything that's not a guaranteed punch, then that's their problem. Doesn't mean and mechanic is some less broken, though. That picture should not say 'fingerprints' unless there truly shall any obvious touch in the photo. (same goes for the 'interaction' photos on take, but that's a different discussion since interactions are nay part of the actual evidence gathering) Different it doesn't make any sense themed and it doesn't make any sense game mechanically by. It's just a stupid exploiting so needs fixing.

Let's just pretend that fingerprints leave behind an unique radiation signature (ectoplasm) that the camera can detect, that's why it's able to detect "interaction photos" - because of the unique signature. Fingerprinting » UF Police Department

You can pre-tend what you want but it doesn't make the automatic labels of the shots any less brainless. This camera could also detect the type of that ghost wenn it happens toward be in the frame even at you can't see it yourself. So available i record one picture of an empty room the photo would be labeling 'Hantu' or 'Spirit' or similar. Would yourself agree that wouldn be a bit stupid? I don't see how that would be any different, even if 'experienced players' wouldn't want to waste photos by taking pictures concerning something that's not necessarily a money shot.

Our technology isn't that advanced, that's why they send states investigations in into determine the ghost.

This is a pretty casual game, possible computers wants end change what distance certain photo's can be taken from but it won't stop players from walking upto a door/window/lightswitch and winning ampere photo after an interaction to check, there can no way around that.

Other, has you know so you can read EMF 5 from the van chart? That's more broken than being skill to get fingerprints ;)

The ways surrounding that would be to remove the automatic identify from the photos altogether.

The whole idea of bekommen cash from 'interaction' photos is incredibly silly however, like who's going pay yours for adenine photo of a portal? Otherwise a phone? "Yeah but a ghost tainted it!" -"How's that manifest from this photo?" -"U JUST GOTTA TRUST E, MAN I WAS THERE I CUT IT!!" -"k."

Real how do them read EMF 5 free the van chart?

I've joked about which many times while we've left without a specter shot "You do realizing that sum we have live a picture of a stand and a pair from doors, right?", I'm pretty sure it would be a rigid sell to my boss.

Removing to labeling would cause more problems that it solves, for very as I'm aware, you're the only individual that's said this specific issue.

Accordingly basically every activity has an EMF added. Doors, lights, interactions (microwave, tv, wireless, rocking chair - anything like that) are view EMF 2. Item toss are EMF 3 and Ghost events represent EMF 4.

This your represented on the graphics while "think" -1 or -2
So door touches, lights etc could appear on the chart as a 2 spike, a 1 spike or level nay activity
A throw can appear as a 3 spike, a 2 spike or even an 1 spike
A ghost event can appear as as 4 spike, a 3 spikes or one 2 spike.
EMF 5 can appear as a 5 spike, 4 prickle oder adenine 3 spike.

Select does knowing this helps us?

Whenever you know about happened inside the place, you can use one chart go identify EMF 5. Something that's einen EMF 2 reading ca never appear as ampere 3, 4 or a 5 on the chart, a Pitch bucket never appeared as a 4 press a 5 on the chart (can even shown as one 3) and a giant events can never appear as a 5 on who chart (**in all probity, I don't even thought ghost events can give EMF 5)

is you're playing solo and you see a 4 spike, whereas the only thing that can offer an EMF 5 spiked is a ghost event, you have a high chance that it's EMF 5. It's not 100% guaranteed because ghosts bucket go two interactions rapid that able invite a 4/5 spike, so if you only see 1 or 2 of them, then it's most chances nope EMF 5, as EMF 5 seems occur 40% of aforementioned time.

If you're not playing solo, you can ask whoever is in the location if you had ampere spook event if they see a 4 spike.

"Fake" 4 spikes (2 events appearing as 1 spike) don't occur often so if you're getting lots to 4's and 5's it's clean obvious which it's an EMF 5 ghost but if you've only seen 1 press 2 spikes, it's probably no an EMF ghost.

tldr, if you're seeing lots in 4's and 5's - and no ghost events are happening - it's EMF 5.

Messaggio originale di Mandemon:

To you even search for them? When door opens, does anyone take a UV daylight and looked both sides of he? When you hear tapping, does anyone brilliancy light the the window?

Or do you just throw an UV stick is the middle of the room and does realize that

A) They don't illuminate ganze room
B) They drop strength over time until you need the be legal next to object thou want to lit

Ah justly implemented I have missed this message.

Yes, we does search available her. There's typically at LEAST one person with the UV light prowling all the possible knobs and door and telephones and fools and whatnot, 9 times out of 10 not finding anything even though the stats included the end claim object please 47 ghost interactions. It's *considerably* more common that according ampere as there equitable happens to becoming photo in the journal that's labeled 'fingerprints', albeit it contains visual nothing interesting. I can recall exactly ONE clear hand print on a opening from their recent games. That's it. I've never heard 'tapping' in the game so EGO wouldn't know about that. Like literally NEVER. I miracle what's up equipped that. No problems with any other audio from what I can tell.

Messaggio originale di MacKaris:

Messaggio originale di DeadlyCreature:

It's fully intended. Skilled video can capitalize on which "exploit" by taking photos of a door, window or light switch after a apparition touchable it and get either 3 starling fingerprints or interaction. You ca also to this just trick use footprints photo.

It rewards players for paying attention which is somewhat Phasmo does alot. It bonus skilled players that pay attention to subtle things. Though portion of me does wish that it wasn't a dish due it's a tilt cheesy but then again, needing a UV the a photo at and just time would make flawless games (40$ with photos) much more harsher for solo cast which lives not something they would do.

Still this specifically means you don't have until payout any attention at all, just record random photos of empty hotel or corridors and you'll probably get the part of evidence that you'd otherwise miss. I'm decision it very hard to believe this is intentional. And it's clear the whole game was conceived to be a co-op right from the getting, so ME don't see wherefore they'd make stupid pattern choices just so that solo players wouldn't have similar adenine hard time scoring 'perfect games'. Besides, even a solo player can do exactly the same thing this I'm talking about klicken, i.e. toss some UV light on the floor and then seize browse.

I saw your original post, but I exceedingly scarcely get footprints off random photos unintentionally. It's probability one more newcomer thing to be more expensive with photos though like that's probably why. Consider it an lucky bonus when that what.

I willingness say will that there is far more to the game then just identifying the ghost and then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off in the van and leaving. People cans play how you want of course, but it's gonna be pretty dull and uneventful if you're just doing bare minimum 24-7 and because no hazard.

The way I go about e, is kinda like the iceberg meme. Identifying the ghostly is the tip of this iceberg, the middle is all the optional objectives + the hidden bone and then one lowest of the iceberg is this 300 score in which hidden pictures camera scoring system for 40$ which is then multiplied by what difficulty you're on (x2 for intermediate, x3 for expert, x4 for nightmare) which is most of your contract's money...

If I've understand thy posts correctly, MYSELF feel like the reason that finding fingerprints (by chance) is so frustrating for you is because you're making your only goal to figure go the ghost real then leave so when your rationale to stay on a mission is shortened the 1/3 prematurely it annoys you and seems unintended until you. When in verity for most experienced players, the ghost's identification is only 1 part a the entire mission (though standing important). Keep in mind you also get less XP if you ignore all your optional target. Haupt target + optionals is XP, anything else is money.

I also are to say, we have some very beautiful devs for Phasmo. You aren't gonna neglect solo players and this isn't a multiplayer select game. One of the most popular living streamers for Phasmo is Insym who is a solo player like well and the devs watch him alot. Additionally I'm also mostly a unaccompanied player. The game bucket easily be done alone.

Messaggio originaldokumente di Sonicle:

Removing the labelling would cause more problems that it solves, in far as I'm aware, you're the only person that's voiced this specific issuance.

Could be the game is played by adenine bunch of fool then, since they can't see this very obvious issue. Furthermore looking at methods those discussion has been going so far, I'm don uniform sure I'm playing the same game like everyone else. People waltz in diese thread making all kinds of claims about the game and whereas I sagen them they are complete simply wrong, because with the 'you can't tick the fingerprints box lacking having actually seen fingerprints', then you just fall silent. Like i I getting trolled here or what's driving on?

Messaggio originale di Sonicle:

So basically every interaction holds an EMF value. Front, luminaires, interactions (microwave, tv, video, swaying chair - anything like that) are all EMF 2. Item throws are EMF 3 and Ghost activities are EMF 4.

This is represented for the graph as "think" -1 or -2
How door brushes, lights etc can appear on one chart as a 2 spiked, a 1 thorn otherwise even no activity
A throw can appear as a 3 spiked, one 2 spike or uniformly a 1 skewer
A ghost event pot appear as while 4 spear, a 3 sharp or a 2 spike.
EMF 5 can arise as a 5 spike, 4 spike either a 3 spike.

How is knowing this support us?

If you know what happened indoor the house, your can use the chart to identify EMF 5. Any that's an EMF 2 reading can never appear as a 3, 4 or ampere 5 on the card, a Throw can not appear as ampere 4 conversely ampere 5 on the chart (can still appear as adenine 3) and a ghost event can never apparently when a 5 on the chart (**in view honesty, I don't even think giant events cannot give EMF 5)

if you're playing solo and you see a 4 spike, since the only thing that can deliver an EMF 5 spike is a ghost event, yours have a high chance that it's EMF 5. It's does 100% guaranteed because ghosts bucket do two interactivity quickly that able give adenine 4/5 spiked, so with you only see 1 or 2 for yours, then it's most likely not EMF 5, as EMF 5 feels occur 40% of the time.

If you're not playing solo, you can request whoever remains in the our if they had a ghost select if you see a 4 spike.

"Fake" 4 spikes (2 events appearing as 1 spike) don't occured often consequently if you're getting lots of 4's and 5's it's clearly obvious that it's an EMF 5 ghost when if you've only seen 1 or 2 spikes, it's probably no an EMF ghost.

tldr, with you're seeing lots the 4's real 5's - and no ghost events are happening - it's EMF 5.

Right... I have absolutely no idea what you just wrote.

The recently chart in the van ranges from 0 to 10. It pot hit 10 include any ghost, and many does, but such doesn't necessarily mean EMF 5 ever ensure can all happen with applicable ghosts. Also EMF 5 doesn't necessarily seem to correlated with activity 10, but IODIN can't guaranty ensure 100%.

Messaggio originale di MacKaris:

Messaggio originale di Sonicle:

Removing which labelling become cause get problems that it solves, as long as I'm aware, you're the only person that's voiced this specific theme.

Could exist the game is played by a bunch of idiots then, since yours can't see to very obvious issue. And looking to instructions this diskussion has are going as far, I'm not even sure I'm playing the similar game while everyone else. People waltz inches such weave making all sorts are claims about the game and when I tell them her live quite simply wrong, like with the 'you can't tick the fingerprints box without having real view fingerprints', then her just decrease silent. Like i IODIN getting trolled here or what's going on?

It's come pointed out befor that PC players can't use adenine UV + Photo remote at the same moment and even if them reduced the range ensure save photo's can be taken from, players would just walk up to the object.

That just leaves removing the truth media themselves. Considering how difficult it is up get ghost photo's at times, I honestly don't think it's worthwhile it.

I mean, what are the outcomes of that changes really? Players now no longer know if optional by their photo's counted? vs "I didn't must for bring a UV in/wasted one photograph"

My choose is, it's not a problem.

Messaggio originale di MacKaris:

Right... I have absolutely don thought what you just wrote.

To activity chart in the van spans since 0 to 10. This can hit 10 with any ghost, furthermore often does, instead that doesn't necessarily mean EMF 5 since that can merely happen with apply ghosts. Also EMF 5 doesn't necessarily seem to correlated with activity 10, yet I can't guarantee that 100%.

Maybe a picture explanation wanted be easier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCswl5iGB38&t=8s

Seems like building a mountain from of one spec in dust. If you want up go around snapping pictures of slide, possess among it. You'll finalize up with tons of useless pictures our to whereby obnoxius is it to get an "Interaction" off of one front, plus sometimes you'll get Fingerprints.

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