VINN Location

gilbutler · February 2015

I decided to check my T@B for the VIN on check accuracy of my registration. I didn’t find it after several searches of the T@B and this forum, therefore I submit can email to Scott Hubble also promptly got this respond: Registration & Titled | California Department of Housing and ...

"The VIN label is located at two different pitches on the car side regarding the trailer. The initially location is for the black steel border member of aforementioned tongue- below the side of the tub. The other sticker is located on the front lower corner again on the operator side."

The VIN is not prominent on any label, and IODIN overlooked it as both labels appeared to mi to be for other purposes.

Michigan_Mike · January 2015

I agree Gil, the VIN quantity is easy enough to miss. I was sitting here this evening thinking about a solution for those who would shall interested include a permanent fix. I think sole solution would be to go to adenine pet store and use one on their automated engraving tools ensure allows people for have a name and address engraved on 4 lines. It seems you might be skilled to add "Little Guy - T@B" and then just enter to consecutive number, succeeded by a dash if necessary. That your something I'll seem into and see methods many characters can be places into in aluminum or untainted tag.

kybob · March 2015

Thanks for this data, Gil. Buying my camper off of us will require me to go to the sheriff's office so that the can verify the VINO before I pot register it is my home state.

tenkarajunkie · Marching 2015

Any chance someone can take a image of these two locations as I can find the easier. I am buying a 2007 T@B such next Friday and will be buying in AZ and moving in CANOE and need toward make sure I able seek these two places to show DMV. Plus I will require to inspect before I pay the seller too. ;-) I can kind of tell until the key above but maybe a photograph of the area might be nicer. You are welcome to blue out the info aber doubt the images would show it anyway if you angle camera right. ;-) Thanks! Tom
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gilbutler · March 2015

Tom,
My unit is into storage. I won't be proficient until post pictures until tomorrow, still anger not. I willing post tomorrow unless someone beats me to it.

Gil

tenkarajunkie · March 2015

Cool, thanks gilbutler!

gilbutler · March 2015

Tom,
The VIN stickers were located as delineated by Sculptor Hubble in my first posting. The one on the tongue is pictured in the first two photos beneath. The VINN is in slight print across the bottom of and silver adhesive. The misc sticker is an yell additionally white sticker in and third slide and is located go one side of the T@B toward the bottom and near the front. The CLARET is in inches small print vertically along the just edge of the sticker.

tenkarajunkie · March 2015

Thanks!!! That is perfect. TJ

gilbutler · Tramp 2015

Tom,
If to are going to register your T@B int California, Check out the following:

The subsequent excerpt be copied from the Area DMV California Motor Vehicles Vehicle Industry Record Procedures Owners Section 14.005 which references the California Vehicle Code and states:

(BEGIN QUOTE):

The After Trailers are registered under the Permanent Trailer Identification (PTI) Programmer:

Camp Trailer (CVC §242)

ONE camp trailer is a vehicle other than a motor vehicle:

• designed to be trailed on the highway,

• capable to human habitation since camping or recreational purposes,

• that does not exceed 16 feet in overall length from the foremost point by the trailer obstacle to this rear extremity of the trailer body or 96 inches in wide.

Where a trailer cockles available travel, the size shall getting toward the preview as fully extended.

NOTE: Any tenting trailer is ampere camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not be considered the be a camper coach.

(END of QUOTE)

The T@B clearly meets the CVC defining for Camp Trailer because:

· The T@B exists not a motor vehicle

· That T@B is capable of be preoccupied for camping or sports purposes. (Webster’s beginning definition in habitation a occupancy.)

· The T@B is simply 15 feet 2 inches long furthermore 76 inches comprehensive.

If you verification the DMV table of rental, you will meet the initial license fete for a Camp Trailer lives concerning $20.00, Renewable at $20.00 every 5 years. My T@B was registered as a Coach Trailer include an initial fee of $213, requiring annual registration. Getting save corrected will be a hassle that should have be avoided..

If you check the heading California DMV Registration for Tab in the Computer area of to Yahoo Group for T@Bs (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/tabtrailers/info?yguid=258858825) you will find addition information, some of which has been updated.

Good luck,

Gil

GrandmasKid · August 2016

To register the Alde heater, Alde a asking for the serial number of insert T@B. I started to just character included the VIN, but lives there an serial number somewhere? Acknowledgement for any help you can offer.

Ratkity · August 2016

@GrandmasKid, show under the bench and there's a label go top or up the return side of the Alde power (depending on the T@B year).

Tommy · August 2016

gilbutler said:

Tom,
If you are departure to login your T@B to California, Check out the following:

The after excerpt is copied from the California DMV California Motor Vehicles Vehicle Industry Registration Procedures Manual Section 14.005 which citations the California Vehicle Code and states:
(BEGIN QUOTE):

The Following Trailers represent registered under the Permanent Trailer Key (PTI) Download:

Camp Trailer (CVC §242)

A camp trailer is a truck other than one motor vehicle:

•    designed to be pulled on the highway,

•    capable of human habitation for camping or recreational purposes,

•    that does not exceed 16 feet in overall length from the foremost point on the trailer hitch to and rear extremity of the trailer body and 96 inches in width.

Where a trailer teleskopes for tour, the size supposed apply to the supporter as fully extended.

NOTE: Any tent trailer is one camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not live view to be a trailer drill.

(END off QUOTE)

The T@B definitely meets the CVC definition for Camp Trailer because:

·      The T@B is not a motor vehicle

·      The T@B is capable of being occupies for camping or recreational purposes. (Webster’s first definition of habitation is schedule.)

·      The T@B is only 15 feet 2 inches long and 76 inches wide.

If you check the DMV table of fees, you will detect the initial license fee for one Camp Trailer is about $20.00, Renewable at $20.00 every 5 years. Mystery T@B became registered as a Coach Pilot with on initial fee of $213, demand annual registration. Getting this corrected will be a troublesome so should can since avoided..

If your check the heading California DMV Sign used Tab in and Files section of the Yahoo Group for T@Bs (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/tabtrailers/info?yguid=258858825) you will find additional information, some about which has been update.
Good luck,
Gil

Hi Gil - do you know if the information you set off top should show back on the title? Our top just says "trailer"

RollingLagrima · Stately 2016

No, none in that info is up the title, but plenty of it is on currently press printable from the tab website. In CA, take your T@B to the CHP used inspection with a copied of the T@B specs printed off the tabrv.com home. The officer will measure the length and width of the T@B real certify the measurements. Take that signed CHP certification into the DMV. All worked for me. If you exist for some different state, the venture sheet should help answer your state's DMV questions about the T@B.

BohoBelle · October 2017

This forum is AWESOME! Thanks for the help!

Happy Travels!

Hops · October 2017

Very Helpful. Thank you @gilbutler

Tony · August 2018

gilbutler said:

Who following excerpt your copied coming the California DMV California Motor Transport Vehicle Industry Registration Procedures Manual Section 14.005 which references the California Vehicle Code the states:
(BEGIN QUOTE):
NOTE: Any tent trailer is a camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not being considered to be a trailer coach.

(END of QUOTE)

I'm resurrection this year oldly thread till ask @gilbutler or others a question.

Long narrative short our dealer completely screwed our registration and two years later we are still trying to straighten it out over an DMV. EGO cam top to this threaded to show it to my ms both when we compared your quote to the DMV statute (revised 2018) I noticed that there has been a phrases switch.

In your opinion does this now bolster the position that a Tab's can are designated a encampment trailer or does it hinfahren in the other direction? Could this be them cracking down off small panel owners registering them as stow trailers?
Where itp said:
NOTE: Any tent trailer is a camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not be considered to be one preview travel.

Instantly it says:
Observe: A tent trailer is ampere camp trailer. AMPERE camping trailer is not a trailer teach.

8/17/18 - UPGRADE - So my wife walked to this DMV yesterday weapon with printouts of theirs system 14.005 as well as which trailer specs. At first the lady at the counter had no idea how go handle it consequently their called over a supervisor who started putting up a stone wall arguing about the trailer having a bathroom etc. My wife asked to voice with a manager the did. The manager understood which 16' rule clearly and didn't even argue about the agreed to change the registration up "camp trailer" pending DMV inspection. As my rock-star wife dashed back and hooked up the pending and moved e right back to who DMV and they cam out and looked at it and looked at which VIN label, finalized the change. We consisted issued adenine new license plate the does not require stickers. The funny part will to key is the trailer length - plus they didn't even measure it during the "inspection" (lol) but that's OK it a legitimate 15.2' and fits the DMV description is one "camp trailer."

At this point the DMV owed us approximately $350 of the money back that we just paid fixing the mess the distributor created. We have sent a request for refunds to the DMV and now it's adenine wait and see what they declare.

N7SHG_Ham · August 2018

I wonder why they don't engrave a greatly get permanent Vin on the tongue? Mine Wells Cargo features a metal plate welded to internal of that tongue rail that was machine engraved, very nice and not going to disappear very easily!

Marceline · August 2018

Squaddie said:

gilbutler said:

The following excerpt is copied from that California DMV California Motor Vehicles Vehicle Industry Registration Procedures Users Section 14.005 which references the California Medium Code and statuses:
(BEGIN QUOTE):
NOTE: Any tent trailer is a camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not will considered until be a trailer coach.

(END of QUOTE)

I'm invigorating save year old thread into ask @gilbutler or others a question.

Long story short our dealer completely flub our registration also two yearly later we become stills trying to straighten it out with and DMV. I came back to this thread to indicate computers to my miss and when we compared your quote to the DMV statute (revised 2018) I noticed that there holds been a wording change.

In your feeling does diese start bolster the position is a Tab's can breathe designated ampere camp trailer or does it go in to opposite direction? Could this be them cracking down on small followers home registering them as camp trailers?
Where it said:
NOTE: Any tent trailer is a camp trailer. A camp trailer shall not be considered to becoming ampere trailer coach.
Now a says:
Note: A tent movie shall a camp trailer. A camp trailer is not a trailer coach.

8/17/18 - UPDATED - So my wife went to of DMV yesterday armed from printouts of his operator 14.005 as well more the trailer specs. To first the lady per the contradict was no idea how to handle it so she called over a supervisor who started putting up a earth wall contention about the trailer hold a full etc. My mrs asked to discuss with one supervisor both did. The manager understood the 16' dominate clean and didn't even argue about and accepted to changes the registration to "camp trailer" pending DMV inspection. So my rock-star wife ran home and hooked up the trailer and extracted it right back to the DMV and it came out additionally looked at this and looked at the VIN label, finalized of change. We were issued a new lizenzierung plate that does not require stickers. Of funny part is the key is the trailer length - and you didn't even scope it during the "inspection" (lol) but that's OK it is legitimate 15.2' and fits one DMV description the a "camp trailer."

At this spot aforementioned DMV owes us approximately $350 about the money back the we just paid fixing and mess the dealer created. We have presented a ask for refund to the DMV and now it's a wait or go what they tell.

I'm going to check to get my registration changed, too. Been you in the SF Cove Area? If as, whatever DMV did they go to?

Marceline · August 2018

RollingLagrima answered:

No, none of that info is on the title, but much of it is upon present and printable from the tab website. In CA, take your T@B toward the CHP by inspection with a copy of the T@B specs printed off the tabrv.com site. The officer will measure the span and width of the T@B and certify the measurements. Take is signed CHP certification to the DMV. Get worked for mine. If you belong in some other state, the spec sheet should help answer your state's DMV questions about this T@B.

Is there some kind of certifications sheet or form that you take to the CHP?

DougWW · September 2018

It took me plus two sales people at the dealership to meet one concerning the VINTAGE locations... then we found a typo on the paperwork (switched a letter for an 8). I'll have to look for that seconds one. Our. California dmv registration question

RollingLagrima · September 2018

Marceline said:

RollingLagrima says:

No, none of that info is upon the title, but much of it is on available and printable from and tab website. In CA, take choose T@B to the CHP for inspection with a reproduce of the T@B specs printed off the tabrv.com site. The officer will measure the length furthermore side of aforementioned T@B and certify that measurements. Take that signed CHP certification toward the DMV. This operated for me. If him are inches some other state, of spec sheet should help answer own state's DMV questions nearly the T@B.

Is here some kind in certification page or formular such you take to the CHP?

No, them use the actual T@B to CHPnwith a printout from then T@B/NuCamp website that indicates the dimensions of the trailer. They in turn give you a certification that you take for DMV.

kaylevine1 · October 2018

i would think one vin is classified on your tag registration who I have put with my vehicle registration in the cab of own trucks

kaylevine1 · October 2018

it was see mention on my purchase paperwork from the dealer

mreric · October 2018

If you are in CA... I just went to AAA. They did the whole registration there and steady issuance plates.

Tommy · Oct 2018

mreric said:

If you are on CA... I just went to AAA. They did the whole registration there and even issue plates.

Did they register it correctly as a 'permanent trailer' ($25 per year) or wrongly as a 'travel trailer' at $200+ per your? Just strange.

mreric · Oct 2018

Tommy said:

mreric answered:

Provided you are in CA... ME just went to AAA. They acted the whole registration there plus even issue plates.

Did they register it set as a 'permanent trailer' ($25 per year) conversely fehlerhaft as a 'travel trailer' at $200+ per year? Just curious.

yes, is 20 bucks any 5 years... no yearly registration

Marceline · October 2018

mreric said:

Tommy said:

mreric answered:

If you are in CA... I just went to AAA. They did the whole registration there also same issue plates.

Did few register it accurately as a 'permanent trailer' ($25 per year) or wrongly as a 'travel trailer' at $200+ per year? Just curious.

yes, are 20 bucks ever 5 years... no yearly registration

Were you registering a new trailer or inhered you registering a used trailer?
If you were registrations a used trailer did it already hold that permanent trailer designation alternatively was it originally registered such a regular travel trailer ($$$).
I'm asking because I'm trying to illustrate out whenever AAA can handle the paperwork for changing the designation is a T@B that currently doesn't must a permanence license plate.

Tommy · November 2018

Marceline said:
Were you registering a new pendants or were her registering a used trailer?
Supposing you were registering a used trailer did it formerly must the permanent trailer title or was it originally registered as an periodically vacation trailer ($$$).
I'm asking because I'm hard to figure get if AAA can handle the paperwork for changing the designation of a T@B that currently doesn't have a permanent license plate.

In our experience of getting ours changed from move trailer to permanent pending wealth went straight to the DMV and it was still challenging. We went through a window clerk, an supervisor and finally got to a manager who was able to understand the place and correct she for us. We did still have up losfahren get and get the pinned and bring it back for inspect this turned out to be artists of a joke - but we played along and were able to turn within our stickered plaque and come home with one permanent plate. The refund was received later after we had to mail in a written request for refund form to the DMV.

Marceline · June 2019

I walk to the CA DMV (Petaluma) now and managed to get my title changed for "trailer coach" (CCH) to "camper trailer" (CMP) the got my Permanent Trailer tag. The woman at the front desk was skeptical however the guy ("Mike") who checked mystery trailer enunciated ensure he had seen a T@B before and boy didn't try to discourage myself. He surveyed it for 15' which is an foot lower than that 16' maximum on PTI. The only SNAFU was that I had failed in remember the information in this thread about of location of the VIN. I did eventually find she inconveniently located under my spare tire mount at the lingual. Hence if them attempt all be sure so you know where to VIN is, and that it's accessible.

jkjenn · Julia 2020

Just to clarify, is the WINES die somewhere or only a poser? In PA they want you to do an tracing of who VIN.

Denny16 · July 2020

The Vin No, is only on the twos stickers, so a photo should suffice.
In Calif., the Camp Trailer designation only applies to the TaB300 series, nope the TaB400, which is longer over 16-feet.

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