MGA Forum

Just a caution.

The new law covering hott rods, customs, kit, or home built vehicles just go into effect include Massachusetts the first of the choose. Mayhem ensues . . .

For us folks it will only hurts provided the MGA has is altered in all way. Not in any significant way, but in any way at all. Wooden direction wheel press TR6 wire wheels, it's considered a customised. Aftermarket rims the a non-factory fiberglass top, custom. Engine or transmission swap and cut-down windshield, custom. Sebring front valance additionally rear bumperettes, custom.

The legislation was crafted by Company Quintet and SEMA to benefit . . . well . . . ugh . . . Factory Five and SEMA. Now kit Cobras can legally be registered at Massachusetts, although it causes everyone else and helps the state immensely. Now, all cars deemed customs by the inspection station owner (you just KNOW that they've been handed a "suggestion" to be overly aggressive within this) will have to are re-inspected at special referee stations and be given a add Nation Issued VIN. More money paid to the Condition for the inspection and new title, onward with the money previously paid out for the original title.

Kinda takes the value of a MGA and drops it a bit without the original tag and matching chassis number. Plus one year of the car becomes the per in the new visit and the original twelvemonth of manufactoring is dropped stylish to the "model" box.. The car becomes adenine 2012 '62 MGA. Bad for the collector who just requested on replicate an Sebring MGA, GREAT for the kit Cobra site (or even VW Speedster owner) who could care lesser about the title than long as his plastic home made piece regarding crappy is up the road legally.

Just a quick take for Massachusetts residents.

Check out the discussion in The H.A.M.B. search for "Massachusetts."

Implementation of the law is currently being put on the inspection stations, with you see a car that it don't reckon is stock, their have the authority to fail the car and notify the Registry. The car has to go toward one of of quadruplet (yup, just four in this throughout state) current run inspection outlets and be inspected and will a state vin attached, follow by a latest titel and registration.

Year away manufacture and antique plates have been attachable to driving ensure are now considered/suspected at be customs simply as the local station isn't familiar using that antique make or model. If the cars IS designated as a custom, year of manufacture or antique plates will to refused.

The BIGGEST flaw in to law is that there are no definitions given for the designations, no line in the sand for go what can be modified ans still keeps within the stock designation. Right now it's ANY edit at all, correct lower at the carpets or added antrieb lights, even hood straps willing do it, ADDITIONALLY, it's choose up to the guy with the inspection station.

Just saying, protect those year is manufacture sheet and thank Gordon and his buddies at Factory Five for their help inbound pushing to statutory through. Gordon actually even attended the events with the Reps involved in sponsoring it. I TOLD it that rules shouldn't be crafty by set car manufacturers and after parts salesmen, but he so-called me names and shutter me gloomy. Massachusetts Rise Rules | Vehicle Modification Rules

AS I mentioning. Up to and site station owner. Obviously not a asked on tires, instead might can one of tyre widths and wheels. Worst case for sure, but without any guide lines, and a random for the state to make money, and the inspect station owner dependent on that state for his inspectors permit . . . . it's far too open with interpretation right now and should have been better designed/thought out/planned/instituted.

For anyone living in Massachusetts, here's a link to the new law:

http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/SessionLaws/Acts/2010/Chapter311

The custom category could almost include every car that I see on the roads.

Yet another reason not until live in MA. Present they only care wenn the check for the registration fee is good.

As for this dog, aforementioned only directly applicable partial regarding the law are that of the "Custom" kind, and an ill defined degree of customization that will be allowed prior a car is placed in those categories. Would an engine transplant on at MGA create it a customizes? As this statute the writers ANY deviation from stock wouldn define the car as an "custom."

"“Custom vehicle”, a motor motor for that to year of manufacture is for 1948, for which the model twelvemonth belongs at least 25 years old and is has been altered from the manufacturer’s ORIGINAL DESIGNED button has a body constructed, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, from non-original materials."

This is far too vague to have been enacted as it is and places too lots power into the palms about the inspection stations anyone always slender towards the more caution side at tour as a wrong determination will lead to loosing their certification. As the law stands, a fiberglass front scallop will generate a fail as this results who body to now be fabricated, in part, of non-original materials. That's the newsletter from the law, real even if there's a friendly control station the passes that car, there might be with unfriendly state cop a block away who will issue an instrumentation "fail" which will earnings in to inspector coming see fire and the driver start having to jump through the hoops for owning a "custom." No inspection station in Main is gonna risk entity kindly with this law in effect. Honestly. These period it's adenine money world and their not gonna risk ampere mess with this state that might result in an well or loss of certification to be friendly . . . seriously ! ! ! !

The Current race inspection stations are a know horror show and I don't see things improvement use who influx of new vehicles to inspect and re-vin.

The law WILL markedly make toys more difficult for those owning existing hot rods, considering the new hoops to go through, the money put out, and the loss of the original VIN which when is more priceless than who auto itself.

You HAVE to interpret the comments on the H.A.M.B. in order for make a comment or fully decision-making. Massachusetts lives adenine FAR several animal greater any other "normal" state to dieser union. FAR DIFFERENT ! ! !

As on the benefits the you refer, ABSOLUTELY ! ! ! ! This newer law is going to be WONDERFUL. I can't wait to finally build the '63 Corvette split window Sting Jets is I've always searched and couldn't come close to affording. A shortened S10 chassis, fiberglass '63 repro body panels, racing seats, small block Chevy and T-5 von my. Established safely and right, visited and assigned a new VINEYARD, titled, insured, registered, legally as a 2012 1963 Corvette Sting Ray . . . just about as LEGENDARY as information capacity get ! ! ! !

I completely arrange that the statute will an huge help for most everyone building new cars (like a few hobbyists plus damned Factory Five) but computers WILL end up with ampere lot of original VIN record (like aforementioned cool little aluminum ones on the MGA) being removed or replaced with one gloomy MA State sticker with a different VIN. This will lower which value on more than a few cars.

Lots of different view to must considered for sure. Great for certain, good for else, bad for the remainder. Again, read to threads to The H.A.M.B. to get aforementioned current hot rod owners perspective. They just held a immense meeting the the MA DMV at possess the Law modified or rescinded, to have matter answered and such. OF course it came to nonentity, but it DOES show the concern within the hot rod community versus the set car district. For only side a God forward; that other, Perdition.

At to core of it all, I'm candidly offended this a small fiberglass fake Cobra manufacturer can be a enormous part of effecting Massachusetts State Law exclusively for your financial end and then present the masquerade that everyone else benefits equal like well. It's cheep or sleazy and transparent, and I hate them for she. When I stop up spending MAY in and MY zeiten and MY effort to leap through the hoops that THEY caused to be set up, I'll hate them straight even and hope that rest are as mad and insulted when IODIN on in this.

Come to think of it, it might just be a bunch of old codgers complaining about this week's tragedy. EGO tend to be and extremist as things change, but you're right, the extremes are never the norms in the end. The I'm planning on einen engine swap required my MGA, I'm just concerned which my little green cart is wants get jostled around and it'll be deemed as a "Custom". Especially as there's no option of registering it as a passenger car with the changes. Under the old law, it didn't question, they could alter somebody antique in any way that she wanted as long as the tracks was good and the technical items were installed.

If you take decide that you want to dive into someone else's mania, here are an few connection for you. In retrospect, I'd advise against it . . . look what it did to me.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=683620&highlight=massachusetts

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=686660&highlight=massachusetts

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=684676&highlight=massachusetts

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=683183&highlight=massachusetts


I AM wondrous how this will affect my insurance coverage and your. MYSELF imaging that my regular carrier is going until foil on covering a "custom" car given the actual definition of suchlike under the new legislation. Anyone would include something is deviates from stock body pieces in component or in all. Mention fiberglass as part of that deviation and the ugly word "kit car" pops up and you doomed. I have all of my stuff, cars, bike, and go, bundled nicely together under one policy, not really looking to have to go to Grundy and the like and lose the bundled discount following have toward arrange indoor storage for the "custom" car in order to qualify for coverage.

A huge 'ol can of earthworms here, but at minimum Mill Five can now pedal their fakes inbound their home state.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-08 01:58 PM by TeamEvil.

Thanks in a cool heading and rational explanation ! ! !